I don’t agree with this poster’s conclusions, but I add this in the interests of balance and, at least, he addresses some of the issues, if only on the surface. He appears to be very quick and willing to accept the FBI and Secret Service perspectives (which from what I already know are misleading – no-one is attempting to obtain ‘rights and privileges’ through this process). Odd for such a ‘rebel’.
Particularly ever since the advent of what the corporate whore media refers to as the “Great Recession,” people have become increasingly more desperate in trying to earn more Federal Reserve Notes so they can pay off all their living expenses. Many have become dependent upon the welfare state, as testified by the growing numbers of Americans on food stamps, which have increased from 43,000,000 – 47,000,000 people over the last 3 years. No wonder some of the con artists within the Carousel see an opportunity to exploit vulnerable individuals with fanciful tales of hidden money that, as the tall-tale goes, can be used to magically pay off all the debt collectors.
The Anti-Terrorist (AT) refers to the so-called “Acceptance for Value” (aka “A4V”) method in his most recent book, Standing Under Freedom, admitting that while he thought the theory was sound, pragmatically it has only…
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Kyle Rearden said:
What conclusions do you disagree with, specifically?
Please keep in mind that the AV4 method is rooted in the STRAWMAN hypothesis, which itself is debunked by United States v. Frech, United States v. Washington, and the Federal Style Manual; I’ve mentioned these sources in more detail within my comprehensive overview of the sovereign citizen ideology, “Only on Paper” (I would also suggest you read Chris Cantwell’s article, “Sovereign Citizens Be Like…” for a similar, albeit differently expressed, position on this issue).
Also, I never remember claiming to be a “rebel,” but I do remember adhering to libertarian principles. If anyone were to be the rebels, it would be those who have inhabited the United States federal government for many decades now, because they have rebelled against the United States Constitution, and therefore, constitute an enemy rebel government. For more detail on this, I suggest you read “A Primer on State Citizenship.”
John-Henry Hill, M.D. said:
I am not going to re-invent the wheel. The article that follows my “Preface” is the BEST explanation of what “Accepted for Value” (A4V) REALLY means.
A4V does NOT mean that you do not have to pay your legitimate debts resulting from CONTRACTS you voluntarily signed — and any articles claiming that you can pay off all your debts simply by signing an A4V statement on a bill are TOTAL NONSENSE.
PREFACE:
“Acceptance for Value” is a remedy available only in commercial law (the Uniform Commercial Code or UCC). One can “accept for value” ONLY an instrument that has been “issued for value”, that is: 1.) the instrument has been issued to generate value where there was NO prior value; AND 2.) the instrument (such as a bill) has NO signed contract to back it up. In short, an instrument “issued for value” is an OFFER TO CONTRACT from someone (the ISSUER), unbacked by a pre-existing, written contract, in which that person is attempting to get YOU to give value to that instrument by having you falsely believe you owe money when you in fact owe nothing. HOW you respond determines whether YOU or the ISSUER becomes liable for amount claimed. If you ignore the offer (and therefore “dishonor” the person making the offer) or give it a “blank endorsement” (with your signature only), you have assumed liability for the amount specified. However, if you give the instrument a “qualified endorsement” or “conditional acceptance” (by “accepting it for value”), you have in fact made a counteroffer, kept yourself in “honor” by responding to the original offer, and kept the liability on the ISSUER. In the case of a bill sent to you, your “qualified endorsement” via “accepted for value” keeps the ISSUER liable for the money claimed – NOT you! You retain your status as the creditor in the situation; and it is up to YOU whether that instrument (the bill you received) becomes a negotiable instrument (money) with which you can settle the account. You can either “accept for value”, placing all liability for payment on the original issuer; OR you can “accept for value” and then specify that the money will be paid using the money created by your government bond created by your Birth Certificate under the emergency laws enacted following the bankruptcy of the U.S. in 1933. (Note: In the bankruptcy of 1933 the U.S. government took ownership of all land and possessions of the American people, including the people themselves as “surety” for further loans from the Federal Reserve and the international bankers. Under the legal TRUST created by the U.S. Constitution, such an action would have been fraud and theft, so the government was required to offer a “remedy” to the people, as the beneficiaries of that TRUST, in order to exercise their rights if they so choose.)
Since the issuer had NO signed, written contract to back his claim, he was forced to “issue for value” (i.e., issue it in an attempt to create value) his instrument (whether a bill, legal “indictment”, traffic ticket or other violation of a statute, any demand for payment, or whatever) . In essence, the issuer is throwing you a “hot potato” and is hoping you will be ignorant enough to simply accept the instrument – as a contract offer – as it is; to give it value by ignoring it or by your “blank endorsement”; and to accept thereby the liability for paying it. If you “accept it for value” and “return it for value”, you have tossed him a hot potato in the form of a counteroffer, so that he (the issuer) becomes liable for the amount of money specified in his original instrument’s claim, unbacked by any pre-existing contract. Consequently, the instrument issued pays the instrument! The original issuer pays the original issuer – he pays himself. Therefore, the transaction is balanced to zero and closed.
Rather than “re-invent the wheel”, I have included the following article which (in my opinion) BEST explains “acceptance for value” as a remedy under UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) law, which is simply a written version of centuries-old international commercial law. (Please note that its reproduction here is permitted under its copyright.)
+++++++++++++++++++ ACCEPTED FOR VALUE article ++++++++++++++++
See: http://JohnHenryHill.Wordpress.com
“Accepted for Value” (50 pages) — For FREE DOWNLOAD below – in PDF format
ACCEPTED_FOR_VALUE_Explained__EDITS__TheAmericanConnection_2007_50_Pages
“Accepted for Value” (50 pages) — For FREE DOWNLOAD below – in WORD format
ACCEPTED_FOR_VALUE–EXPLAINED___FANTASTIC_2007_Edited
The article below can also be DOWNLOADED from many web sites. including Bill Thornton’s web site http://www.1215.org but it was NOT written by him: http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/work-in-progress/accepted-4-value-explained.rtf
dotnetspec said:
Thanks for the useful summary. I also found this blog with plenty of accessible articles:
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/the-government-must-pay-all-your-debts.html
I know the U.S. became bankrupt in 1933. Does anyone have links pointing to documentation proving the dates of bankruptcy for other nations throughout the world? I have checked for UK, but it appears to be difficult to obtain a copy of the Bankruptcy Act of 1869, which, apparently is the relevant one.
And this one. Demand lawful money through set off instead if discharge:
http://mikiverselaw.blogspot.de/2013/05/best-a4v-process.html